Fedora - Ubuntu's more responsible older brother

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-February/msg00370.html


Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:

Here are some truths that I hold dear. I believe that they are *fundamental* truths of the Fedora project.

1. It's not always easy to be true *free software* advocates. We take the good with the bad.

2. The people we care most about are people who care about advancing the best of *free software*.

3. Ubuntu is already catering to users who are willing to sacrifice freedom for the sake of *marginal* usability advantage. There's really no reason for us to follow them down that path. Will it cost us users? It certainly will. But we are *extremely* competitive with Ubuntu when it comes to *contributors* -- and it's *contributors* who change the world.

Let Spaceman worry about being popular. Let's concern ourselves with being right, and being productive -- even when it's difficult.

"Fedora -- Ubuntu's more responsible older brother."



Truly is!.

This is what I usually do -> Typical users, I usually point them to Ubuntu - saved me from trouble trying to explain something they might not be able to understand. But for brave users and potential contributors, I usually try to bring them to Fedora - Try helping them develop their skills, and hopefully they will give back something to Fedora, but more importantly, to the FOSS world.


Credits to Nicu for this lovely artwork

^-^

Comments

Anonymous said…
Ubuntu is not the only distribution with focus on "simple" user friendliness. It's only the most overhyped one.
Anonymous said…
That's all we need, another Linux "leader" dissing another distro; man, sounds like a serious case of sour grapes.

When are these people realise that a victory for Ubuntu is also a victory for the GNU/Linux OS?

But then Greg is working for RH; so he has a vested interest in ensuring a RH project comes up top. Very Ballmer of him!

Ubuntu is where it is today mostly because people are excited over it because it just works and it is responsive. So it has an excited and vibrant community and a product that performs well.

People will always access rich content over the Net (Flash, Java, video streams etc.) and people will always want their fancy 3D cards to work and listen to their MP3s.

Granted to make these to work, mostly we would need to install binary blobs, but hey, unless all h/ware manufacturers releases their divers' source codes, we will need these proprietary blobs.

On servers, we can all can live on Free Software but on most desktops/notebooks, living on purely Free Software is simply not feasible.

I like Ubuntu/Debian for its large repos, only other distros like Gentoo and the many BSDs variants are in the same league. In this respect the Fedora is catching up but still somewhat lacks.

Now I am not dissing Fedora, I like it enough to run the F8 Game spin on my home PC and for 90% of servers at work I do Centos, Gentoo and Ubuntu.

Both the Ubuntu and Fedora project should work together, instead of being immature and dissing each other. Heck isn't knowledge sharing and being excellent to one another one of the pillars of the Free and Open Source Software.

Ok.....feel free to flame me.

Cheers,

Eric
KageSenshi said…
i wonder what in the post makes u feel like its "dissing" ubuntu. Its just raising that Ubuntu and Fedora serves different goals.

Ubuntu cater for the home users who just want things to JustWorks. While Fedora try to be true and bring the FOSS world forward without worrying to slow down development because its trying to support closed-source/non-free apps. Fedora keep moving forward for the benefit of all, Ubuntu slow down to cater the rest of the world who want JustWorks.

Yes its not feasible to run purely with Free software, but Fedora does not stop you from doing so. You are Free to install them if you wish to.

I think the perception of "dissing" each other might be on the Ubuntu side, where the the fans want everyone to use Ubuntu. A different thing happened in Fedora side, when people want JustWorks things, a reply - "just use Ubuntu" is not that uncommon.

Whatever Fedora done, Ubuntu will get it as Fedora is dedicated to sending everything Fedora has improved to upstream projects.

Fedora goals differs than Ubuntu goals. Ubuntu works to solve their
"Bug #1". While Fedora move toward the advancement of FOSS.
Anonymous said…
The Ubuntu fans are known to be vociferous bunch, guess it's because they are excited over it; it is not wrong to recommend everyone to use Ubuntu...wouldn't you recommend something good to others? Of course it should not be at the cost of dissing other distros.

After our little chat at Ubuntu Malaysia meetup, I get a better understanding of Fedora's stand.
gregdek said…
Heh.

"But then Greg is working for RH; so he has a vested interest in ensuring a RH project comes up top. Very Ballmer of him!"

No. If I were in any way Ballmeresque, I'd be hitting you with a chair right now.

"People will always access rich content over the Net (Flash, Java, video streams etc.) and people will always want their fancy 3D cards to work and listen to their MP3s. Granted to make these to work, mostly we would need to install binary blobs, but hey, unless all h/ware manufacturers releases their divers' source codes, we will need these proprietary blobs."

Here's where you're wrong, Eric. We don't need *all* hardware manufacturers to release driver source. We only need to win *enough* hardware manufacturers so that those manufactures can demonstrate a competitive edge when free software ends up kicking ass on their hardware.

Ubuntu isn't interested in fighting those battles. That's fine. We are.

In my book, that makes us the older, more responsible brother. You are free to have your own opinion. Unless that's to Ballmerific of me to say, of course.

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